Book · 2014
The Obstacle Is the Way
by Ryan Holiday
A former marketing exec turns Marcus Aurelius' private notebook into a playbook for whatever just went wrong in your week.
What does Reddit think of The Obstacle Is the Way?
r/Stoicism owns this one almost entirely. Most of the top-upvoted threads here are about grief, breakups, or a bad financial year, and the book keeps getting named as the thing that put Stoicism in the room in the first place. One ↑216 comment turns a 15k investment loss into the book's own line: "The obstacle is the way. This 15k is the price you must pay for wisdom." Another reader, ↑196, describes it as the door that led to Massimo Pigliucci and Ward Farnsworth, not the destination. That's the recurring shape. Praised as an entry point, then quietly outgrown. The most skeptical comment doesn't touch the ideas at all; it's aimed at Ryan Holiday, an ↑175 take calling him "a marketing and consumerism genius" who spotted a desperate self-help market and built a career on it. Nobody here calls the book bad. Several call it a starter kit.
Community feedback & reader fit
Themes
- · Stoicism on-ramp
- · Ryan Holiday's brand
- · reframing setbacks as fuel
- · grief and personal crisis
Common praise
- + An ↑216 r/Stoicism commenter turns a 15k investment loss into the book's own mantra: 'the obstacle is the way, this is the price you must pay for wisdom.'
- + Several r/Stoicism threads credit it directly as the book that got them into Stoicism to begin with.
- + One commenter says it helped them get through a breakup within a day of picking it up.
Common criticism
- − An ↑196 comment treats it as a waypoint, saying they moved on to Pigliucci and Farnsworth once they'd finished it.
- − The sharpest comment (↑175) skips the ideas entirely and goes after Ryan Holiday himself, calling him a marketing and consumerism genius who found a hungry market.
- − Nobody in the displayed threads defends it as a rigorous account of Stoic philosophy rather than a popularization of one.
Who it's for
Start here if Stoicism sounds interesting but Meditations sounds intimidating; that's the on-ramp several r/Stoicism regulars describe using. Going through something rough right now — a breakup, a financial hit, a death in the family? The displayed threads are full of people who leaned on this book in exactly that moment and said so afterward. Already know your Epictetus from your Marcus Aurelius? There's a real chance you've outgrown it, per the reader who finished this one and went straight to Pigliucci and Farnsworth. Bring some skepticism about Ryan Holiday's business model; the same threads that recommend the book don't spare him.
Mentions over time
Which Reddit comments matter for The Obstacle Is the Way?
The most relevant excerpts across the subreddits where this book is mentioned — opinionated, argued takes first, then top-upvoted mentions. Click through to read the full thread.
“My dad passed away too. He told me a week before he died. “If I ever see from above that you are doing not well because of me I would never be proud of you anymore, so be a man, take care of your mother and your little sisters and make me proud, I love you” we both cried for a straight hour almost. …
“Couldn't care less. He has made Stoicism very accessible for me and I've learned some great lessons from his books (especially Obstacle is the way). 🤗
“If you are thinking about suicide, you need to get help and call a suicide prevention lifeline. The 'hotlinehelpbot' post has multiple numbers to call. I can relate to what you're saying. I too was considered clever, but I was going nowhere in life. I joined the military at age 27 and have stuck wi…
“So you lost 15k out of a 40k investment? How long would it take you to earn 15k back? That amount of time is actually what you have lost. The obstacle is the way. This 15k is the price you must pay for wisdom.
“There are modern Stoic authors that are well worth reading. Check out Massimo Pigliucci, Anderson Silver, Ward Farnsworth and Donald Robertson. I was introduced to the Philosophy by Ryan Holiday's "The Obstacle is the Way", but after I moved on to the classics and some of the authors mentioned above…
“Yes, he is. Ryan is a marketing and consumerism genius. Here's my guess on what Ryan did: He identified the self-help market after a long career in the corporate world, realized there was massive potential because the consumers in the self-help market are desperate for help, and saw that Stoicism h…
“Same thing happened to me a few months ago and I was devastated. However literally a day after the break-up I discovered Stoicism and boy it has helped me loads. I've learned that I should view the past as something that happens FOR YOU not to you, and how all the difficulties and obstacles that I e…
“remember that you'll die man, and nothing of all this will ever matter in the grand scheme of things. also you will come to see that a man learns nothing from winning. however, losing can generate great wisdom. the least realization is the joy of winning. it is inevitable to lose every now and the…
“There are a few which really transformed my life after reading. Mindset by Carol s dweck. The obstacle is the way by Ryan holiday How to win friends and influence people by dale Carnegie Atomic habits by James clear
“You've got some heavy s*** to deal with. Lots of serious situations, all going down at the same time. I can offer some perspectives & procedures that have helped me, and maybe help you. **1- You are NOT your thoughts.** Your thoughts are instantaneous electro-chemical impulses that are so transi…
“I want to try and address this comment in a nice way, but everything you labeled Holiday as, goes against basically every Stoic principle you say he applies. I think you need to look through the Stoic texts again and really understand them and figure out the differences between them and Holiday Hol…
“Get a flat tire, you have two choices. Scream and curse and then change it. Or just smile and change it. The path in life is full of obstacles. The obstacle is the way. If you stay present while you change it then you won’t be unhappy. If you think “oh why did this happen to me, right now of a…
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“I’ve read the obstacle is the way and it’s really good. Let me know what you think of the Tao of Pooh, looks cool.
“If you're looking for a more digestible book to get started with Stoicism, The Obstacle is the Way is a great beginner book that introduces Stoicism as a modern thinking tool. It's not the most academic in its analysis of Stoicism, but is a great intro.
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Is The Obstacle Is the Way a good introduction to Stoicism?+
Yes, per the loudest signal in r/Stoicism: multiple commenters credit it as the book that got them into the philosophy in the first place, including one who calls Ryan Holiday's version of Stoicism accessible even while criticizing his motives elsewhere in the same thread.
Does The Obstacle Is the Way hold up once you've read the actual Stoics?+
Depends who you ask, but the trend in r/Stoicism leans no. An ↑196 comment says they moved past it to Pigliucci, Farnsworth, and Donald Robertson after being introduced to Stoicism through Ryan Holiday's book, treating it as a stepping stone rather than a lasting reference.
Is Ryan Holiday's The Obstacle Is the Way just marketing?+
That's the harshest displayed take: an ↑175 r/Stoicism comment calls Holiday 'a marketing and consumerism genius' who identified a desperate self-help market and built on it. It's a critique of the author's business model, not a claim that the book's advice fails.
Can The Obstacle Is the Way actually help with a bad breakup or a real loss?+
The displayed r/Stoicism threads say so directly. One commenter describes discovering Stoicism through this book the day after a breakup and finding it immediately useful; another reframes a 15k investment loss using the book's own line about paying for wisdom.